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Monday, February 27, 2012 12:44:25 PM
joannabeard
Joined on 17 January, 2011
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Chapters 3 & 4

Read chapters 3 and 4, answer the questions below and reply to one post.

How should expectations be used in the classroom?  What role should prevention and revenge play in the classroom setting?
Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:25:31 PM
rebekahbass
Joined on 17 January, 2011
12 Posts
Re: Chapters 3 & 4

Expectations should be set at the beginning of the school year.  They should be very precise s o that both parents and students have a clear understanding of them.  Prevention is the key to great classroom management.  Revenge should have no role in a classroom.  Teachers who are motivated by revenge need to go HOME!!!
Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:31:02 PM
debbierawls
Joined on 17 January, 2011
15 Posts
Re: Re: Chapters 3 & 4

All teachers have lost the proper perspective from time to time.  But when we view a student as we do our own child or grandchild,  it all becomes much clearer. That's an "ah-ha" moment.
Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:23:16 AM
calliebruce
Joined on 17 January, 2011
12 Posts
Re: Re: Re: Chapters 3 & 4

I realized that "ah-ha moment" years ago!!!! Treat kids how I want my kids treated! Sometimes that is hard.....my kids act better :)
Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:33:38 AM
kmilligan
Joined on 17 January, 2011
16 Posts
Re: Re: Re: Re: Chapters 3 & 4

I agree even with your kids.
Monday, May 07, 2012 7:14:42 PM
rebekahbass
Joined on 17 January, 2011
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Chapters 3 & 4 (1)

You're right.  Our kids do act better. 
Friday, April 13, 2012 10:33:26 AM
wendyhagan
Joined on 17 January, 2011
14 Posts
Re: Re: Chapters 3 & 4 (1)

I agree that revenge should have no place in the classroom!  Teachers should never get joy out of having to punish a student. 
Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:31:53 PM
dmcintosh
Joined on 17 January, 2011
13 Posts
Re: Chapters 3 & 4 (1)

Expectations should be clearly established at the beginning of the school year---preferably the first day and followed consistently as the year progresses.  The key is to set expectations and then establish relationships so that the students want to meet them.  Prevention should play a major role in the classroom.  When a student misbehaves, the effective teacher is motivated to prevent it from happening again, whereas revenge should have no role.  However, students have a choice.  Follow or break the rules.  When rules are broken, consequences should follow.
Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:35:39 PM
debbierawls
Joined on 17 January, 2011
15 Posts
Re: Re: Chapters 3 & 4 (1)

I agree.  We inspire our students with our expectations for their behavior and for their future. But we also teach them that actions have consequences - all done with calm and respect.  I admire your classroom control and calm demeanor.
Friday, April 13, 2012 1:59:09 PM
mdrurey
Joined on 17 January, 2011
15 Posts
Re: Re: Re: Chapters 3 & 4 (1)

Me too, I love the way you are always calm and in control.  I need some of that at home.
Monday, May 07, 2012 1:03:51 PM
dmcintosh
Joined on 17 January, 2011
13 Posts
Re: Re: Re: Re: Chapters 3 & 4 (1)

Thank you.  I do try to stay calm, but sometimes it is very hard.
Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:26:24 PM
debbierawls
Joined on 17 January, 2011
15 Posts
Re: Chapters 3 & 4 (2)

The author pointed out that the beginning of the school year was the time to establish expectations and to follow them consistently as the year progressed.  I thought it was interesting how expectations were contrasted with rules.  Although rules are necessary for the everyday life of school, rules often focus on undesireable behaviors - with predictable consequences.  Expectations give an opportunity for new beginnings and change. Expectations focus on the future.  

Effective teachers are motivated to prevent misbehavior; ineffective teachers are motivated after a student misbehaves, to punish the student. Even when a child misbehaves, the focus should be on preventing that misbehavior in the future.  Teachers should act in professional, respectful ways to address their students' misbehavior.  When they do, most often they have the support of the other students and the parents.
Friday, April 13, 2012 10:31:39 AM
wendyhagan
Joined on 17 January, 2011
14 Posts
Re: Chapters 3 & 4 (3)

The first day of school is the best time to establish and clarify your expectations within the classroom.  Both parents and students should be made aware of your expectations as well as any consequences you may have for certain behaviors.  Prevention is key to keeping order within the classroom.  Always be consistent with expectations and consequences.  This will assist in preventing unwanted behaviors.  Revenge should never be used within the classroom.  A teacher that is petty enough to seek revenge against a student/child in any way, shape, or form should definitely go home.  Students need to be lifted up and inspired.  No matter how angry they may make you or how much they may irritate, revenge should not show up.  The teacher should become even more motivated to reach that student.  Turn the other cheek and kill them with kindness.  Both can go a long way in the end.
Friday, April 13, 2012 1:57:27 PM
mdrurey
Joined on 17 January, 2011
15 Posts
Re: Chapters 3 & 4 (4)

Expectations play a huge part in the classroom.  I've seen what kids can give if they feel you love and expect them to succeed.  I think setting expectations at the beginning of the year and establishing rules is good prevention,  and  revenge should never be used in classroom. 
Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:21:01 AM
calliebruce
Joined on 17 January, 2011
12 Posts
Re: Chapters 3 & 4 (5)

Expectations should be set at the beginning of the year with consequences attached to the misbehavior. "Effective teachers are motivated to prevent misbehavior (prevention); ineffective teachers are motivated after a student misbehaves to punish the student (revenge)" . Teachers should never use revenge.
Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:30:43 AM
kmilligan
Joined on 17 January, 2011
16 Posts
Re: Chapters 3 & 4 (6)

Expectations should be used in the classroom to let the students know what standard they will be held to.
Prevention should be used to limit the amount of negative situations students are placed in. Revenge,though often thought of , should not be used when dealing with a students negative behavior.